Tuesday, November 23, 2010

Post VIII- outside forces

Remember that outside forces may also contribute to the hero's downfall. Identify and explain those outside forces that contribute to Macbeth's downfall. Who makes the great contribution?

12 comments:

Anonymous said...

Jade

The witches were a huge contributing force in Macbeth's downfall. While it is his fault that he made the choice to murder Duncan and Banquo, he never would have done so had the witches never interfered with the course of fate.

mmatysak said...

So Jade, you believe in fate then?

Anonymous said...

Jade

Yes, I think fate exists. We're all headed towards whatever end we're going to be stuck with. The witches told Macbeth it was his fate to become king, and so he did, regardless of how he came to be such. It would have happened one way or another since it was his fate.

Anonymous said...

Haley

Like Jade I believe the witches had a big part in Macbeth's downfall because their prophecies went to Macbeth's head and Hecate plans to cause Macbeth destruction. However, I think Macbeth's biggest downfall was killing Duncan because after that he isn't the same. He starts seeing things and kills even more people to cover up his first murder. He caused his own downfall in order to become king, but he will soon lose that status because he has ruined Scotland.

Anonymous said...

Haley

Like Jade I believe the witches had a big part in Macbeth's downfall because their prophecies went to Macbeth's head and Hecate plans to cause Macbeth destruction. However, I think Macbeth's biggest downfall was killing Duncan because after that he isn't the same. He starts seeing things and kills even more people to cover up his first murder. He caused his own downfall in order to become king, but he will soon lose that status because he has ruined Scotland.

Anonymous said...

Tiffy

In Macbeth's downfall, the witches were the fuel but Lady Macbeth was the flame. Macbeth might not have come up with the idea to kill Duncan on his own. It was Lady Macbeth that had started the idea in his mind.

mmatysak said...

Did she start the idea in his head? Wasn't it already there?

Anonymous said...

tiffy

reading back, it was in his head for the king to die but lady macbeth was the one to convince him to be the one to do it

Anonymous said...

Tania

I believe the witches are the true villians behind the tragedies in "Macbeth" because they purposely told half truths to Macbeth about him becoming the king because they know the flaws in him and they know bad will come because he will not allow fate to happen. They are half truths because they did not tell him why and when.

Anonymous said...

JJ aka Julianna alskdjfasd

The Three Witches do a great job of influencing Macbeth, while his wife does even a more wonderful job. If the Three Witches had never told Macbeth that he'd be king one day, then he would've have thought about killing Duncan in the first place (because the thought would've have crossed his mind), and he wouldn't be in the position he is in now. Sure, Macbeth was thinking of killing Duncan, but Lady Macbeth only accelerated the arrival of his doom by forcing him to do it by emasculating him... so it's because of those outside forces that are leading Macbeth down a cataclysmic path.

mmatysak said...

Julianna
your posting is WOW word heaven!

Anonymous said...

Cassandra ♪

I think the witches are a large part of his downfall... but so is Lady Macbeth. The witches give him reason to think murderous thoughts, and Lady Macbeth feeds those thoughts and nurtures them to the point where they can take over Macbeth's mind and he listens to them. But, even though it's not an outside force, Macbeth still deserves the brunt of the chastisment. He's a grown man and should have the capability to think and decide for himself and not allow others to influence him in so deep a manner... especially not on something so drastic as murder.